Gurr, Caesar. Rents a cottage and about an acre of land of Mr. Melville at New Bridge. Aged 60. Born in Maresfield in a house built by my grandfather Bennett on the edge of the Forest. Lived there till I married when I was over 30. I used to do job work till I was 20 and then went to work daily at Pippingford out in the Forest where I still work. For the first 30 years I was always about in the Forest on the Maresfield side. I used to cut a little litter for my father's pigs but I cut for no one else. I saw most of what went on in the Forest.

There is a farm at Maresfield called Hill End. When I was a boy William Osborn occupied it and his son occupied it till lately. (I am not sure he has not sold it to Sir Spencer Maryon Wilson.) I repeatedly saw his team in the Forest carrying litter turf and mould home.

I used to see Sir Thomas Wilson's team come every winter for litter. The carter Wood was very proud of his team and had hoops of bells on their collars. The horses were kept at Woodcock Farm which was kept in hand. I cannot say whether the litter went there or into any other yard. When I went to Pippingford I worked 3'h years for Mrs Gorden, then 20 years for Mr. Mortimer. He died 20th September 1871 and I have worked for Mr. Gray ever since. Mr. Mortimer used to take mould, marl and sand from the Forest for his own use and occasionally he turned his sheep out. Mr. Gray has not done this.

I have held the cottage and land I now occupy on the Hartfield estate for 24 years, 29 September 1855. I have kept a cow there for 23 years. I have each year turned out the cow and cut litter and fern for bedding it and the pigs. I have occasionally had mould for mixens. For the first 10 or 12 years I had turf for fuel. Since then I have always had it from Pippingford Park. I have occasionally cut birch, willow and alder for firing. I cut alder last (1878) out on New Bridge bog. The litter has always been stacked in front of the premises by the high road where anyone can see it and I know the present Lord De La Warr has frequently seen it. No one has ever interfered with me or objected to my exercising these rights nor have I ever paid anything for it.

My predecessor was named Edwards. He sold off and went to America where he died.

I recollect Mr. Langton, Colonel Morris and Mr. Melville regularly having litter off the Forest for the Grove, also George Fillery and afterwards John Baker for Peculiars, also George Heasman and afterwards George Edwards for the Furnace Farm. They all turned their stock on the Forest I used to see them. Mr. Hale has always cut litter. I have seen them on the Forest within the last 4 years.

My Father was a very strong man. He used to cut turf and peat all the summer for anyone who wanted it, including many of the cottagers in Hartfield Street and in the winter he cut litter for anyone who liked to employ him.